I am a terrain theory anti-virus anti-vaxxer who believes that in the current global zeitgeist trying to push the there-is-no-virus worldview is not a good strategic effort. In fact, right now, it could be considered controlled opposition. As I see it, the main objective right now is to "call the question" which is what CHD / RFK jr, ICAN / Bigree and Aaron Siri are doing in smaller tactical steps via the courts, in particular. With each "win" they indirectly remove another brick from the germ theory edifice without attacking that worldview directly / head-on. Meanwhile, the anti-virus terrain crowd undermines that effort by its divisiveness. The shared opposition of anti-CV-19 / pro-safe vaxx (a brilliant cover when they know that in court the "sceince" will not survive discovery) will ultimately lead back to Duesberg et al and the crud-science of assuming virus before eliminating other factors, as well as the challenge (impossibillty) of testing with a pure aka isolated virus which then, of course, sets the stage for terrain theory to explode out of the cake in the middle of the wedding.
With each win, the people you cite rubberstamp pseudoscience and tippy-toe around blatant fraud, thereby reinforcing the dogma/premise underlying ALL of the convid harm and all of the "virus"-related harm, to both humans and animals, voluntary and coerced, for over 100 years.
They are not removing bricks from the germ theory edifice, only the bricks of the "mismanaged pandemic measures".
Terrain theory is already exploding, and germ theory is already being dismantled very effectively, thank you very much, despite the efforts of these influential people who undermine our efforts to get the TRUTH to people.
Thank you for asking that question. If you hadn't I would have - not that anyone is listening to me or reading my work. And thank you as sell for this concise and well expressed summary of the preposterous preponderance of virus true believers.
You are spot on here and elsewhere and this is a giant case of a miss (deliberate or otherwise) is as good as a mile.
Meanwhile, I'm going to go ahead and quote myself here:
"The brilliant, prolific and prescient Thomas Szasz fought tirelessly against the psychiatric establishment and the process by which they transformed “problems with living” into “medical” diagnoses. It was already a centuries old deception when in 1960 he published “The Myth of Mental Illness” and that myth remains both a deception and a profitable fiction. I find it interesting that the invention of the current non-existent plague occurred sixty years after Szasz’s book about the invention of 'mental illness.'
One of Szasz’s last books, first published in 2001, ends with a chilling and prescient warning about the sordid place in history that has now arrived, the so called “new normal.” I use the term not to support that oft repeated demented thought but to address the linguistic absurdity of this time. Note the arrogance with which the powers that should not be declare and decree that the mass insanity of the moment is both normal and permanently established. Note too the hapless compliance of the millions and billions who accept this as an existential fact and the despair felt by those who know better.
In Pharmacracy Thomas Szasz addressed a moment that he posited but didn’t quite live to see. His warning about the depravity tersely named and massively marketed as “the new normal” and “the great reset” appears near the end of his book:
'Formerly, people rushed to embrace totalitarian states. Now they rush to embrace
the therapeutic state. When they discover that the therapeutic state is about tyranny, not therapy, it will be too late. ' "
I was pushing the "therapeutic state" concept of Szasz back in 2020. No one wanted to hear about it. They were too scared.
Some people really want to believe that their body is not theirs, that an external and material authority has to take care of it.
There are people who prefer to go to the ER and wait 6 hours with a shallow cut that does not need suture instead of simply washing the wound and putting some ointment there from time to time.
People are very scared of their own body, which would be hilarious to Thomas Szasz, because he thought only the body exists.
In Pharmacracy Thomas Szasz addressed a moment that he posited but didn’t quite live to see. His warning about the depravity tersely named and massively marketed as “the new normal” and “the great reset” appears near the end of his book:
"Formerly, people rushed to embrace totalitarian states. Now they rush to embrace the therapeutic state. When they discover that the therapeutic state is about tyranny, not therapy, it will be too late."
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
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We would need to go situation by situation. And I think we need to examine levels other than the physical. Sex creates karma. There are energy bonds that exist on a diversity of frequencies. Physically, people's bodies have responses to one another that are not about "passing a thing" but rather something being triggered, including defensive reactions. If I am allergic to a cat, has the cat "given something to me," or am I responding to my environment?
Well, granted, those are things to think about, but as to your example of a cat: it's the "dander" (a protein/chemical thing) eliciting the allergic reaction, rather than the abstract concept of "cat" per se. Surely?
... that is, it elicits a reaction according to the particular constitution of the allergic person. So in this way, I perceive both "germ theory" and "terrain theory" to be at play.
A protein/chemical isn't a "germ". And most people don't get symptoms in reaction to a cat. Perhaps there is something about cats that can trigger a detox reaction in some people.
"What about STDs that show up the day after an unfortunate liaison?"
Virologists have just discovered a new sexually transmitted virus. Here are the symptoms: regret, shame, hangover-like symptoms, a feeling of awkwardness around the water cooler.
But in all seriousness, just think of all the physiological changes that occur in and around the genitals (and the whole body) as a response to sexual attraction and sexual courtship. Nobody says those are caused by a virus. Instead we say 'those two have chemistry' of 'those two have a spark'. These are accurate metaphors. Chemical and electromagnetic compatibility are a huge factor in sexual courtship and mate selection.
Is it that outlandish that sexual intimacy could cause AFTER effects as well as the obvious BEFORE and DURING effects that we accept as a normal response?
As the saying goes, "when all you have is virology, everything looks like a virus".
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News reports about "scientists" are not proof of "viruses".
Eric, I had to ban this creep Clarence from my own substack a few minutes ago, because of these vulgar comments from him (I'm going to add this latest one):
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I'm one of the people that do NOT believe the virus exists. Debra Birx announced on television that "we no longer have the flu." News media announced a 98% decrease in the flu. You could die from a motorcycle accident and be counted as a "covid death."
BUT
Trying to sell the "no virus" to the public is a losing strategy in my opinion. That horse will be shot down before it ever gets out of the barn. It will be seen as wacko and those who try to prove the virus does not exist will be thrown into the dust bin of opinion.
Gotta hand it to the perps. They know how to muddy the water.
Yet every day more and more people are catching onto the truth, despite all the yes-virus nonsense from the half-truthers, and despite all the nay-sayers who've been telling the outspoken no-virus people all along that we're wasting our time :)
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The problem as I see it is not that the no-virus argument is wrong or that people are not catching on, but that by disparaging those who are fighting the good fight because they are not fully on board with that paradigm is not helping that fight. Just stop disparaging those who are moving the debate in the anti-virus / terrain theory. Stop the all-or-none name calling. The death of germ theory and virology is a huge paradigm shift, as is waking the world up to the DANGER of 5G and 6G....
In my books, deliberately turning a blind eye to reality and perpetuating pseudoscience is not "fighting the good fight". Nor is writing an entire book about the origin of a thing that you've confessed you're not sure even exists.
If someone has no clue that the existence of "the virus" is even in question, it's understandable if they naively talk about it like it's real. But that's not what we're dealing with here.
There's been no name calling here, and no disparaging of those who are "moving the debate" in the no-virus reality.
"We also track the people who attempt to claim this work is irrelevant. My favorites in this genre are Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his science advisor Jay Couey, Ph.D., and a few others I have not had time to raise the issue with."
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
" The death of germ theory and virology is a huge paradigm shift, as is waking the world up to the DANGER of 5G and 6G..."
So is being arrested for taking the dog for a walk, not being allowed to attend the birth of your children or comfort a dying elderly relative, having to wear a mask over your face all day and having to inject experimental drugs to keep your job and/ or go on holiday.
Compared to those paradigm shifts the historic failure of germ theory to provide a scientifically credible model of disease over the last 100 years is hardly a paradigm shift. Neither is the concept of chemical or electromagnetic toxicology.
Humans are almost infinitely adaptable and fluid (it's why we are such a successful species). The more I reflect on the last 3 years the more I see GOOD in the covidiots who wore masks and freaked out about social distancing. For the most part they were not idiots, they were just blinded by propaganda and indoctrination. They were in a state of extreme 'shock and awe' from the TV and they were just trying to do their best in a situation that they did not understand and which made no sense.
With access to the correct information (and relief from all the fear porn and drama from the TV and the alternative media) they would soon direct all their energies to clean living and good nutrition, instead of masking and drugs. They would start to socially distance from EMF instead of each other.
The people CAN handle the truth. Anyone who says otherwise is selling humanity short... and burning the only bridge we have to get out of this 'health security' (disease insecurity) dystopia ..... each other!
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
"Trying to sell the "no virus" to the public is a losing strategy in my opinion."
If that was the case 'no virus' would be promoted by the mainstream as the default opposition view, because they obviously have a motivation to promote the LEAST effective counter narrative.
But what they actually do is keep 'no virus' (AKA adherence to the science) completely off the table, and instead promote the views of The Highwire/ CHD/ Malone etc as the default opposition view (lab leak, gain of function, vaccines-are-good-but-not-this-one etc).
Their narrative folds skeptics back into the official virus narrative (which is hardly effective!). You could even argue that their views are even more extreme versions of the official virus narrative (the 'virus' is a 'bioweapon' etc). The Highwire/ CHD are actually radicalising truthers even deeper into the official Big Pharma virus cult.
And...you make good points. I guess the reason I hesitate on the 'no virus' tactic is because I 'dry run' it through my mind (practice drill) as I imagine myself saying it to my immediate family and friends.
In my hypothetical mental drill I immediately envision my mother snorting, rolling her eyes, and crowning me a "conspiracy theorist." It wouldn't fly with my family members because Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta would hatch from their brain and take over...roflmao
I get it. And I agree that in a practical sense the leap IS too far for most people. But that's not a reason to promote the 'easier' lies, it's a reason to find imaginative ways to make the truth easier to understand, more palatable and more attractive.
For example, showing people how much happier/ fitter/ mentally strong you feel after ditching germ theory is probably going to be a better strategy than hitting them over the head with the science.
Most people just want safety, comfort and security. With everyone now dropping dead of the vax there's never been a better time to promote alternative models of health based on 'the grass is greener over here'.
"With everyone now dropping dead of the vax there's never been a better time to promote alternative models of health based on 'the grass is greener over here'."
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
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No! Do you suppose the Divine countenances denial of truth? If it's anything at all, this assault on humanity and its commission, is a huge test of humanity's integrity and competence. We must expose and challenge every deceit.
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Colds and flus are real. Have you read the Real Anthony Fauci? Gain of function research involved mixing cold and flu viruses with other ingredients to make them more virulent. That's what C19 is. So I don't think that going down this route is useful overall for getting accountability for those who pushed the jab and benefitted financially from this "pandemic". Not helpful.
Wait, they are real WHAT? What makes you think what you call cold and flu are a disease? How do you know it's not another bodily function? Is shitting a disease? Perspiration?
The symptoms are real, but there is no direct evidence that microbes pass from person to person and cause disease. In fact, the evidence ACM (all cause mortality) tells us a very different story, that being the measures taken to prevent the spread were causing harm. If one believes a virus exists, they must also believe said virus can distinguish between state lines, international boundaries and preys on the lower classes. When did viruses gain this ability?
That is a comical semi-straw man fallacy. You are criticizing viral infection dynamics by reduction to the absurd. Which is always funny.
I prefer to say that viral dynamics is too complicated and the no-virus standpoint explains things better. Of course, those who "believe" in viruses need something as complicated as viral dynamics and eschew the simple truth. Their job is about creating useless and confusin computer models that all their students pretend to understand, their job is not to ask questions and search what is true and what is not true. I think that's the problem with Die Herren Professors.
Colds and flus could be an anti-concept, or a package-deal, if you will.
You have the idea already in your thoughts that colds and flus are a consequence of an infection. Therefore, viral infection exist.
If viruses do not exist, the concepts of cold and flus carry their own contradiction in their definition.
We can call it also circular reasoning or begging the question, but anti-concept sounds way cooler.
The scientific work necessary to determine if colds and flus are caused by infections or are simply a process of detoxificaiton routinely carried on by the body as part of its normal health-sustaining functions has yet to be done.
But since viruses cannot be found, it is safer to bet on the "normal process" explanation. Just support the body, don't fight it!
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The traditional saying was feed a cold and starve a fever. Thus a cold needs nutrition, probably vitamins C and D particularly, and fevers need a detox from the build up of internal poisons and flush out the system.
Gain of function research is to be blunt a load of bollox, a Red Herring to deceive the masses and distract from other evils in the world and the push for one world totalitarian government and digitisation of everything.
I disagree, Celia. The one thing that The Powers That Shouldn't Be fear is losing their narrative to the truth that SARS-CoV-2 never existed in the first place. While logically you can never prove that something doesn’t exist (the famous Australian black swans), with items of importance, if you claim that something exists, then you must provide evidence, and preferable iron clad evidence.
Lose the existence of SARS-CoV-2, everything else in their narrative swirls down the toilet (where they belong) including the fake covid-19 illness, the fake rt-PCR test, the fake reasons for lockdowns which killed the economy, the fake masks, the fake debate between whether the fake “novel virus” originated with a love match between a bat and a pangolin or the one favored by conservatives, by gain-of-function at the Wuhan Lab of fake Virology, killing people in hospitals by the thousands with Remdesivir and ventilators, and most of all, the need to inject billions of arms around the world with this deliberately toxic, “spike protein” bioweapon. I also recommend a few of Andrew Kaufman MD videos on Bitchute where he deconstructs the methodology of “peer reviewed” papers showing the existence of SARS-CoV-2. These papers collapse into one of Aristotle’s favorite logical fallacies, that of circular reasoning. While as a chemist, they were easier for me to follow, Kaufman is an excellent teacher, and any intelligent person can.
I also highly recommend Sasha Latypova’s (a brilliant pharmaceutical consultant) Power Point presentation that gives very strong evidence that the entire psyop was run by the US Department of Defense, that all the contracts to purchase the vaccines by the DoD never mentioned them as “vaccines” but rather as “countermeasures” so the FDA and CDC had no “legal” right to regulate them, and HHS, the Big Pharma purported manufacturers, and the captured “regulatory agencies" were basically wag the dog frontmen. Do exactly what we order and you will get tons of money and total immunity. In short, the leaders of our military have declared war on the American people.
I might also add to the above, that the lawyers and court costs for the occasional victories of Del Bigtree’s ICAN and RFK’s lawyers are not much of a threat to TPTSB. They exist on donations from an already strapped American public while ,gov gets their “donations” either by the threat of violence via taxes or from the Federal Reserve which creates its fake fiat currency out of thin air leading to the indirect, clandestine tax called inflation. So John and Jane Bagadonuts must pay both sides. The victories that they are winning are basically a partial retreat by .gov from breaking every aspect of the Nuremberg Code, i.e. a citizen’s right not to be poisoned by their governments.
yes these legal efforts are useless. But the Gardasil multi-district litigation goes to trial in federal court this year and the firm has hundreds of millions behind it. And ICAN and CHD are nowhere near it.
I think that our only solution is to spread the dangers of Guardasil to what ever degree we are collectibly capable. While I am not a Darwinist, if parents are either too ignorant of stupid to avoid this poison for their children, then perhaps they deserve a Darwin Award. They may even replace the current frontrunner, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
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I haven't watched yet, but Sasha Latypova has an article today which includes a rebroadcast of an Aug. '22 segment with RFK Jr. on how the DOD controls the entire operation. I'm sure RFK Jr. knows this and I deep down feel he also seriously questions the reality of viruses, period, not just SARS. If so, it all boils down to "strategy." I don't know "the answer" on this one. Even if the "real" virus truth ultimately triumphs, will it be too late if all "half-truth" approaches are discarded leading up to it? Can a straight on confrontation -- short of huge amounts of the masses just saying no and not complying -- be even implemented without resulting violence? Who knows.
I did watch the Latypova interview with RFK Jr. which as you pointed out is half a year old. I think Latypova has drilled down a lot deeper about the DoD roll since then. As I recall, most of that interview was about how Moderna had broken all rhe FDA regulations and laws with impunity. I hope it is about strategy, but RFK Jr. had also been pushing the fake analschwabian climate change nonsense on his own blog site until his own readers started to mock him in its comment section. I did my part to help out. He only stopped a few months ago. As I wrote in my post that the non-existence of the "novel virus" and its logical consequences is the Achilles heel of the NWO psychos.
It is imperiaive that the lethal virus myth be destroyed to the point that 90% of the people of the world will mock it. Rumor has it that the the psychos are ready to roll out a Marlberg virus sequence with a purported 85% lethality. I think that is why Gates has been smirching extra offensively lately. I no longer believe that alternative media that treats cv-1984 as a real disease have our best interests at heart.
How many times can a magician repeat the same trick before the audience discovers how it works?
How many times can a comedian tell the same joke before it gets old?
There is a breaking point for induced mass psychosis through the media.
The media is the enemy of the people.
Eric and Celia Farber are an exception. They are almost no media, so no enemies. They are mostly poets, philosophers, researchers and candle merchants!
Anything with Marburg lethality is self-liquidating, according to virology (!). It would only have to be another location-targeted, pretend-virus, and since the covid-1984 live exercise worked out well, the game plan will likely remain in place. Real men will have to come out.
Let me think ... Eric Topol? Albert Bourla? Antonius Fauci? Jack Kevorkian? Or B. J. Palmer, phrased as "“If the germ theory were true, no one would be alive to believe it.”
Basically agree with all points. Just wondering how to get 90% of the world to mock it. Or maybe more to the point, 90% of the western dominated "civilized" world.
Please fake medical experts, show us just one Itty bitty virus particle that screams at us "I am a SARS CoV-2 virus" as pure as a snowflake. Look, here's my cousin known as a SARS CoV-1 virus. Oh wait, he never existed either.
Yes exactly. This issue of whether a virus exists or does not exist is fracturing our movement. Why has there not been a debate. Dr’s Tom Cowan and Andrew Kaufman have posted videos which supposedly explain the isolation process and how it can be manipulated but the average person may not be able to follow the steps. A debate is called for.
Why debate? The government admits they don't have a sample nor any records anyone having a sample of the virus. Why not?
There is either science or there is not. Anyone taking a serious look at the methods of virology will see that it does not follow the scientific method. The Virus Challenge has been proposed to give virology the opportunity to take blind samples and identify the viruses that may or may not exist in the samples. They could show beyond doubt they know what they are doing, but have not taken up the challenge. Why is that?
But you start with wrongly formulating the issue. It is not whether a virus exists; it is whether SARS-CoV-2 exists, and that is the heart of the matter. Does it exist, or does it not? If it does not, nothing connected with it or following from it does. Movement fracturing - facepalm, this side of the screen.
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The no-virus people always explain what they want.
The yes-virus people say that viruses cannot be isolated and purified and they must be grown in a cell culture, with lots of weird stuff. They don't explain why, and they don't explain why they don't use controls (cell cultures without the "virus".)
It is simply a belief without evidence.
They insist that science is not about proving anything.
This is so weird.
They claim the can prove that viruses exist and can be sequenced but not isolated and purified in the normal analytical chemistry way, and, at the same time, they claim that science cannot prove anything.
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SO GREAT you are sharing Christine's relentless pursuit of the truth Celia! I have a 3" stack of all Christine's letters and e-mails in my truck. Whenever anyone starts talking about the "Covid virus" I bring it out and show them"the virus never existed anywhere in the world and here is the proof" and they do not know what to say. I support Christine in every way I can, including intermittent financial support. For this interested, here is Christine's website so you can see all the documents
you know how many idiot vax zombies and ignorant morons I've tried to red pill on this, it is less effective than the mRNA preventing Covid, which evidently does not exist. until death they do part. the people wish to be deceived! - The Last Unicorn, Peter S Beagle
Couey is literally the last person to call out. He's one of the only people THINKING right now. I appreciate Christine's work, but this kind of post seems like chaos agent nonsense.
No, he just seems like he is. I interviewed him for three hours. When you put him with a person with grounded knowledge who can reason, he falls apart. He never cites his sources either. He has no actual context but he is great at jargon. Here is audio, transcript and video.
This seems to be the entire scientific community, Eric, so I'm not sure why you target Couey. The majority of scientists in the world still seem to believe a bat and a pangolin *could* have an affair and create a super bug that a Chinese guy could pick up at a market before spreading to the rest of the world.
JJ at the beginning of the pandemic is not the same JJ when you interviewed him. After briefly reading the comments, I can tell you he has *already* since pivoted on his theory. A lot of that probably has to do with you challenging him. So, when I say he's one of the only ones THINKING, it means he is one of the only ones who is still exploring new ideas in 2023. To say that he *never* cites his sources either means you don't watch his show at all or you're being disingenuous.
I did notice you have a lot more respect for people who make questionable scientific claims when they have a massive platform that they allow you to utilize. Very telling.
JJ is learning. He says he is in a precarious work situtation. He lost his position like so many others for not submitting to dangerous nonsense. Until he gains economic independence his learning will be slowed down.
Who is Christine Massey and what are her credentials? Sorry don't think your denial of cold and flu viruses is helpful nor the trashing of RFK Jr's work. Unless you are going to go to these labs and get a sample of saliva and are working with scientists not on the take, the theory isn't useful to the freedom movement overall. In fact, it's divisive.
I think Christine has a driver's license, she can read, she loves trees and makes a good cup of coffee. Besides that, she is a citizen acting under statutes of law designed to force the government to provide information to citizens — like many before her. What she is doing takes some intelligence, but mostly she is driven to get to the truth.
Weak -- and sarcastic response to an inquiry for legitimate credentials. What's the back story on her. We are all driven to the truth here but given that C19 came out of the DOD and governments employed major psyops to get people to take the jab, it's calls into question someone who wants to deny that cold and flu viruses exist. It also shows that she didn't read the Real Anthony Fauci book. Have you? The first line of your response is nothing short of inane. Kennedy has a new book coming out on Wuhan in April. He's got a team of over 20 PhD fact checkers NOT on the take. But we know very little about Christine's background or who she is connected to. That's what I am questioning? Never heard of her before. Massey is certainly an illustrious name -- is she connected to that family?
What's so weak about that? What probable cause do you have to question her "credentials"? She is a free citizen. FOIAs are meant to level the ground between the government and people. Her credential — just like mine — is that she is capable of asking a question. She is also an accredited reporter for my station on Pacifica Network. "AcCREDited" means "CREDential." I gave her that because of her excellent research and investigation that to my standards as a professional investigative editor of long standing are top-notch and impeccable. But I'm wondering what your issue is WITH HER. She offers plain talk questions. The response of the government is what matters.
Only considering the work of people whose credentials you deem admissible is also divisive. Did you read The Real Anthony Fauci? Remember the work of Celia Farber?
It was the professionals who got us into the place in which we find ourselves...
Yeah I've read Celia Farber and she's not high on my list.
I disagree with you. It's not a matter of credentials per se, it's a matter of the evidence. And I just don't see that Christine doing this is helping. I question her background because who the hell is she? Yeah any citizen can file a FOIA but none of you have responded to my challenge that she work with scientists to get samples and PROVE what she is saying. So right now, I think she what she is doing is not useful nor relevant to helping to hold this criminal syndicate to account. Don't think it would be useful in a court or tribunal proceeding. And what's the back story on her? No answer to that....
CL, should she have NOT asked if governments have a sample of the virus they said they had, and used to lock down society? What is the basis NOT to ask? Other than you might NOT like the answer.
I don't care about her background, her work is a huge success.
Like the tale of the Naked Emperor, where everyone is pretending that the emperor is not dressed, and a child just asks with simplicity, giving away all the pretense.
She has done the most obvious and simple thing and people are jealous of her success.
Please, open up your mind to the possibility that there was never a SARS-CoV-2. Just consider it as a thought exercise. Give it a go!
Presumably the govt/CDC etc. alpha agency has a lab report that shows SARS-COV-2 exists, but then when asked via legal channels, they confirm they don't. Why is that? The querent's credentials are irrelevant to the question at hand. RFK Jr. does some good work, but continues to parrot the narrative that his own govt cannot confirm with real science.
I think comments like this are divisive and an attempt to downplay the real criticisms that RFK Jr is making about this whole "plandemic". They mixed up viruses in a lab. Then it was distributed. I believe that's the truth of the matter. So C19 does exist because they created it. Doesn't matter that agencies can't provide a sample; that's not their job. The hospitals were paid off to inflate data about C19 cases, misdiagnosed people using the fake PCR test, used medications and ventilators to kill people and now deny that the jab is killing people. Christine would be better off listening to Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt who are tracking the sequence of laws that have been changed to enable this criminality. Her FOIA requests are of little use overall.
That you may believe something does not make it true. That RFK publishes something implies that it's true. Are you suggesting here that if RFK says something, nobody can produce documents to the contrary? That his word is not subject to verification? That's what happened with Fauci.
I am looking at evidence, facts. You still haven't said whether or not you have read the book. Have you or haven't you? Are you aware of the Trusted New Initiative and how Gates paid off MSM. You still haven't given the back story on Massey. I am not saying anything like what you accuse me of. Don't continue to engage with me until you have read the book. Once you've done that, come back so we can have an informed discussion of the FACTS.
I'm sorry, I've never read a book. I have only read 212 FOIAs from governments saying they have no record of intact SARS-CoV-2 being sampled from a human anywhere in the world. Full stop.
Whether there is a backstory or not is irrelevant. If the authorities have no record of a virus sourced from a human, their whole basis for the response and necessity for a quackcine falls away.
Back stories are entirely relevant. Look at the backstory of the WEF/Davos/UN/ Fauci/Gates partnership/ King Charles III/ Klaus Schwab/Bilderberg...I could go on and on...
Not their job? The CDC must have records of a sample of the alleged virus sourced from a human. If they don't, they have no credibility. The FOIA response establishes exactly that.
It's a waste of time. Start looking at other sources. There are certainly enough other real examples of criminality that can be documented in order to expose this criminal syndicate. The FOIA requests are just not that useful and serve to create division and all of you'all are contributing to that.
RFK Jr.'s criticisms are valid, however the criminality rests on the basis of germ feary. At this point, RFK Jr. is playing whack-a-mole with each new intrusion upon public liberty and well being when he could instead invalidate the whole operation no matter what form it takes by attacking the root of the problem.
If he really wanted to end this, he would instead attack germ feary and its claims of contagious disease and pathogenic genetic particles which then form the basis of the need for quackcines which he has been 'fighting' for decades.
You claim that they created the virus. It does not behave like we are told a virus does. Where is the geometric growth in cases? Why does the virus behave differently in different states and countries who have taken different measures? Why is the cure more deadly than the disease? Why are health outcomes in regions with harsher measures worse than in regions in which measures were not as severe? If the virus exists, would it not be the opposite?
The agencies should have a record of a sample being taken from a human. The threat determines the response. If there is no threat, the entire response has no basis in reality.
If people ask the authorities to prove the threat exists and they cannot, then this tyranny would not be possible. What they have on their side is the strong momentum of germ feary. Once that illusion is broken, the whole thing will crash. As Christine says elsewhere on this page, it is happening, little by little. Eventually it will reach critical mass.
RFK Jr. discusses the existence of the virus in his book, but hedges his bets by not digging deep enough. Yes, being on the fringe can be costly, but does he want the truth or not? It has been disclosed that he is not willing to pay the price for truth until it is closer to the finish line.
This is a grave disservice to his supporters and followers. Literally.
O cmon. Childrens' Health Defense has been doing a phenomenal job exposing the dangers that ALL vaccines cause to children. I just think there's lots of other angles to link together that have greater validation than these FOIA requests. Criminal prosecutions are warranted but when so many people are on the take, and so many others have been brainwashed by the military psyops that's challenging. The agencies would not have samples DUH..it's the HOSPITALS!!! You're not doing people any favour by not pointing that out. Did you READ the book? He does not "hedge his bets". The virus was created from various labs in the US, Canada and China. I will look for further details when his book on the Wuhan cover up comes out in April. And that's not to say that China was entirely to blame since the contracts were signed with the DOD. Read Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt. Read more before you post. Think more critically.
So then the CDC could simply say they have records of samples taken in dozens of hospitals around the country, confirmed by a dozen independent labs. They could document the procedure so that other parties could confirm their findings. Instead, the CDC's website documents the fraudulent procedure that virologists use to 'isolate' a virus which is in fact the opposite, in which bovine and monkey tissues/fluids and drugs are added to create their 'isolation'.
Instead they say, they have no record of a virus taken from a human. Huh. Why is that?
Read more? Think more critically? Have you looked at the procedures of virology? Back up the truck here. You are starting on the premise that viruses exist. Why is that? All that you post about lab leaks, psyops, DOD, etc are premised on the existence of the virus. If there is no proof that it exists that changes the nature of what we are dealing with.
Sasha did NOT say that. Denis Rancourt's work is excellent. Katharine Watt refuses to entertain discussion on the issue for reasons she states in her blog. She's clearly outlined the laws that were passed that set the stage for the violations that have taken place and she and Sasha are working with international lawyers to get people prosecuted. I think that is more effective and useful. As well as RFK Jr running for president -- Biden will be forced to debate him and more truths will emerge. And more people will wake up.
Spending billions of dollars on gain-of-function weaponization on purported viruses does not signify "progress" in this area. The more I dig down into the general field of "virology," the more unscientific and fraudulent it appears. I suspect that gain-of-function is a giant money laundering scheme. When one strips all the fraud from the lethality statistics of "SARS-CoV-2," it resolves to the typical lethality of a seasonal flu, whatever that may be in reality. Exactly what is the basis of this hullabaloo of a lab leak between the red and blue teams, if the "best" they can come up with it a moderate seasonal flu. The probability is exactly that - a rebranded moderate seasonal flu. The real "progress" has been in the lethality of injections.
We should do our best to spread the word far and wide of the Gardasil dangers. While I am not a Darwinist, if parents are too ignorant or stupid to respond to this, then I guess they deserve the Darwin Award, and maybe take the #1 spot to the current, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
I will say, however, that though Massey's FOIs do indeed prove that no SARS-CoV-2 virus has been independently validated to exist, at the same time the nature of the FOIs are such that there can be be no evidence prima facie. She asks for what does not exist, because no-one in virology isolates viruses in the manner described in her FOIs. Thus, it does not really serve as 'evidence' until someone actually FUNDS the necessary isolation study according to the methods identified by Massey, Lanka, Bailey, Cowan etc. *THAT* would be proof. I want our arguments to be logically watertight.
No. If they had the virus they should simply show it.
They have nothing, and they can't lie.
Some claim the American Type Culture Collection sells samples of SARS-CoV-2. The institutions being asked by FOI requests could have bought a sample from the ATCC to study it and produce a report.
This isn't the function of an FOI. An FOI is a legal request for information pertaining to the nature of the questions asked. As such, all FOIs can be dealt with by legal semantics, aka. QUIBBLE.
Massey requested information for a viral isolation methodology, and its results, used by no-one. No information can exist for it DE FACTO. That's the legal quibble at work here. There are much better lines of evidence, like Lanka's empirical demonstration that a control sample to which NO VIRUS particles have been added, still produce 'virus' and cytopathic effects when subject to Ender's viral isolation technique. That's a death blow to the fraud of virology. Massey's FOIs? Not so much...
JP, both the FOIs and the responses are published. Please, provide me a direct quotation that meets your definition of "quibble." I'm surprised you haven't; every word is documented.
The authorities are evading the point of Massey's argument by emphasizing the minutiae of her FOI requests: no information exists for a viral isolation method no-one uses.
Have you ever filed an FOI request? Have you ever been involved in the legal discovery process in litigation? You seem to have NO idea whatsoever what you're talking about. To my readers, please do not be mislead by this guy, who is clueless and seems to be here as a polite troll.
Yeah, I have. I FOIed the NSW Ministry of Transport for their documentation/risk assessment for the 12 months I spent unable to do my job because I'm unvaxxed and mask-exempt. They even gave me the info for free in the end. 22T-0598 on 22 Jan. 2022 [*corrected].
I doubt the virologists will be convinced by Lanka's success, because they have their mind not in science but in the more practical question "What do I have to say to get mor NIH funding?"
This is corruption. Science has been dominated by political and corporate interests since the 1990s.
Massey's success has the virtue of attacking corruption using the own mechanisms of the system. Scientists are merely lapdogs of the CEOs of hedgefunds and they only fear a sudden change or a the collapse of the system.
Virology will be dropped or it will be revamped. They will attempt to say that viruses are mostly benefic and come from our own genome and drive evolution in the right direction and only through random mutations do viruses become pathogenic. They will invent that good viruses and bad viruses jump from one person to another (and between different species too) in a desperate attempt to keep control and prop up the system of medical exploitation.
That will fail too.
Eventually, the scientists will accept Lanka's experiments, but only when the system is totally broken. The system began to break apart when they perpetrators decided to invent the plandemic years ago. It is under attack and must be attacked from every angle.
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
The Governments invented viruses to distance people from God.
The God-State that chooses who lives and who dies. As religiosity began to disappear in people in the 19th century, people desired to become less of a victim of the politicians, and they had to create another form of fear-based control.
If you believe in a personal God, you have nothing to fear from the State, spiritually. In contrast, if there is only this life, and they control all the drugs and all the information, then...
I interviewed him for three hours. When you put him with a person with grounded knowledge who can reason, he falls apart. He never cites his sources either. He has no actual context but he is great at jargon. Here is audio, transcript and video.
I am a terrain theory anti-virus anti-vaxxer who believes that in the current global zeitgeist trying to push the there-is-no-virus worldview is not a good strategic effort. In fact, right now, it could be considered controlled opposition. As I see it, the main objective right now is to "call the question" which is what CHD / RFK jr, ICAN / Bigree and Aaron Siri are doing in smaller tactical steps via the courts, in particular. With each "win" they indirectly remove another brick from the germ theory edifice without attacking that worldview directly / head-on. Meanwhile, the anti-virus terrain crowd undermines that effort by its divisiveness. The shared opposition of anti-CV-19 / pro-safe vaxx (a brilliant cover when they know that in court the "sceince" will not survive discovery) will ultimately lead back to Duesberg et al and the crud-science of assuming virus before eliminating other factors, as well as the challenge (impossibillty) of testing with a pure aka isolated virus which then, of course, sets the stage for terrain theory to explode out of the cake in the middle of the wedding.
Who is controlling me, Michael? Do tell.
With each win, the people you cite rubberstamp pseudoscience and tippy-toe around blatant fraud, thereby reinforcing the dogma/premise underlying ALL of the convid harm and all of the "virus"-related harm, to both humans and animals, voluntary and coerced, for over 100 years.
They are not removing bricks from the germ theory edifice, only the bricks of the "mismanaged pandemic measures".
Terrain theory is already exploding, and germ theory is already being dismantled very effectively, thank you very much, despite the efforts of these influential people who undermine our efforts to get the TRUTH to people.
Thank you for asking that question. If you hadn't I would have - not that anyone is listening to me or reading my work. And thank you as sell for this concise and well expressed summary of the preposterous preponderance of virus true believers.
You are spot on here and elsewhere and this is a giant case of a miss (deliberate or otherwise) is as good as a mile.
Meanwhile, I'm going to go ahead and quote myself here:
"The brilliant, prolific and prescient Thomas Szasz fought tirelessly against the psychiatric establishment and the process by which they transformed “problems with living” into “medical” diagnoses. It was already a centuries old deception when in 1960 he published “The Myth of Mental Illness” and that myth remains both a deception and a profitable fiction. I find it interesting that the invention of the current non-existent plague occurred sixty years after Szasz’s book about the invention of 'mental illness.'
One of Szasz’s last books, first published in 2001, ends with a chilling and prescient warning about the sordid place in history that has now arrived, the so called “new normal.” I use the term not to support that oft repeated demented thought but to address the linguistic absurdity of this time. Note the arrogance with which the powers that should not be declare and decree that the mass insanity of the moment is both normal and permanently established. Note too the hapless compliance of the millions and billions who accept this as an existential fact and the despair felt by those who know better.
In Pharmacracy Thomas Szasz addressed a moment that he posited but didn’t quite live to see. His warning about the depravity tersely named and massively marketed as “the new normal” and “the great reset” appears near the end of his book:
'Formerly, people rushed to embrace totalitarian states. Now they rush to embrace
the therapeutic state. When they discover that the therapeutic state is about tyranny, not therapy, it will be too late. ' "
I was pushing the "therapeutic state" concept of Szasz back in 2020. No one wanted to hear about it. They were too scared.
Some people really want to believe that their body is not theirs, that an external and material authority has to take care of it.
There are people who prefer to go to the ER and wait 6 hours with a shallow cut that does not need suture instead of simply washing the wound and putting some ointment there from time to time.
People are very scared of their own body, which would be hilarious to Thomas Szasz, because he thought only the body exists.
Pardon me for pointing out me, but I addressed it as well here:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/17/open-letter-to-a-friend-who-tested-positive-and-should-have-known-better/
And here:
https://jtbernini.substack.com/p/discernment-disease-and-the-destruction-726
In Pharmacracy Thomas Szasz addressed a moment that he posited but didn’t quite live to see. His warning about the depravity tersely named and massively marketed as “the new normal” and “the great reset” appears near the end of his book:
"Formerly, people rushed to embrace totalitarian states. Now they rush to embrace the therapeutic state. When they discover that the therapeutic state is about tyranny, not therapy, it will be too late."
Thank you!
FUCK YOU AND YOUR JEWISH GOD . . .
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-x-preparing-for-power/
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
Great minds think alike- or something like that anyway.
Do you refute contagion altogether? What about STDs that show up the day after an unfortunate liason?
Hi Joanie
We would need to go situation by situation. And I think we need to examine levels other than the physical. Sex creates karma. There are energy bonds that exist on a diversity of frequencies. Physically, people's bodies have responses to one another that are not about "passing a thing" but rather something being triggered, including defensive reactions. If I am allergic to a cat, has the cat "given something to me," or am I responding to my environment?
Well, granted, those are things to think about, but as to your example of a cat: it's the "dander" (a protein/chemical thing) eliciting the allergic reaction, rather than the abstract concept of "cat" per se. Surely?
... that is, it elicits a reaction according to the particular constitution of the allergic person. So in this way, I perceive both "germ theory" and "terrain theory" to be at play.
A protein/chemical isn't a "germ". And most people don't get symptoms in reaction to a cat. Perhaps there is something about cats that can trigger a detox reaction in some people.
"What about STDs that show up the day after an unfortunate liaison?"
Virologists have just discovered a new sexually transmitted virus. Here are the symptoms: regret, shame, hangover-like symptoms, a feeling of awkwardness around the water cooler.
But in all seriousness, just think of all the physiological changes that occur in and around the genitals (and the whole body) as a response to sexual attraction and sexual courtship. Nobody says those are caused by a virus. Instead we say 'those two have chemistry' of 'those two have a spark'. These are accurate metaphors. Chemical and electromagnetic compatibility are a huge factor in sexual courtship and mate selection.
Is it that outlandish that sexual intimacy could cause AFTER effects as well as the obvious BEFORE and DURING effects that we accept as a normal response?
As the saying goes, "when all you have is virology, everything looks like a virus".
Maybe.
GET A SCREEN SHOT OF THIS, YOU DUMB CUNT . . .
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
News reports about "scientists" are not proof of "viruses".
Eric, I had to ban this creep Clarence from my own substack a few minutes ago, because of these vulgar comments from him (I'm going to add this latest one):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/banning-Clarence-Wilhelm-Spangle-from-substack.png
FUCK OFF JEW CUNT . . .
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
I'm one of the people that do NOT believe the virus exists. Debra Birx announced on television that "we no longer have the flu." News media announced a 98% decrease in the flu. You could die from a motorcycle accident and be counted as a "covid death."
BUT
Trying to sell the "no virus" to the public is a losing strategy in my opinion. That horse will be shot down before it ever gets out of the barn. It will be seen as wacko and those who try to prove the virus does not exist will be thrown into the dust bin of opinion.
Gotta hand it to the perps. They know how to muddy the water.
Yet every day more and more people are catching onto the truth, despite all the yes-virus nonsense from the half-truthers, and despite all the nay-sayers who've been telling the outspoken no-virus people all along that we're wasting our time :)
I'm with ya. I loudly announce my opinion on Twitter etc...that I don't believe the virus exists. I get pummeled but I say it anyway.
That pummeling is just monkeys hurling excrement because that's the only thing they can do.
Twitter is hell and almost no one learns anything there.
Substack is so much better for dialogue.
YOU'RE CUM DRUNK . . .
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
The problem as I see it is not that the no-virus argument is wrong or that people are not catching on, but that by disparaging those who are fighting the good fight because they are not fully on board with that paradigm is not helping that fight. Just stop disparaging those who are moving the debate in the anti-virus / terrain theory. Stop the all-or-none name calling. The death of germ theory and virology is a huge paradigm shift, as is waking the world up to the DANGER of 5G and 6G....
In my books, deliberately turning a blind eye to reality and perpetuating pseudoscience is not "fighting the good fight". Nor is writing an entire book about the origin of a thing that you've confessed you're not sure even exists.
If someone has no clue that the existence of "the virus" is even in question, it's understandable if they naively talk about it like it's real. But that's not what we're dealing with here.
There's been no name calling here, and no disparaging of those who are "moving the debate" in the no-virus reality.
"We also track the people who attempt to claim this work is irrelevant. My favorites in this genre are Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his science advisor Jay Couey, Ph.D., and a few others I have not had time to raise the issue with."
FUCK OFF JEW CUNT . . .
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-x-preparing-for-power/
" The death of germ theory and virology is a huge paradigm shift, as is waking the world up to the DANGER of 5G and 6G..."
So is being arrested for taking the dog for a walk, not being allowed to attend the birth of your children or comfort a dying elderly relative, having to wear a mask over your face all day and having to inject experimental drugs to keep your job and/ or go on holiday.
Compared to those paradigm shifts the historic failure of germ theory to provide a scientifically credible model of disease over the last 100 years is hardly a paradigm shift. Neither is the concept of chemical or electromagnetic toxicology.
Humans are almost infinitely adaptable and fluid (it's why we are such a successful species). The more I reflect on the last 3 years the more I see GOOD in the covidiots who wore masks and freaked out about social distancing. For the most part they were not idiots, they were just blinded by propaganda and indoctrination. They were in a state of extreme 'shock and awe' from the TV and they were just trying to do their best in a situation that they did not understand and which made no sense.
With access to the correct information (and relief from all the fear porn and drama from the TV and the alternative media) they would soon direct all their energies to clean living and good nutrition, instead of masking and drugs. They would start to socially distance from EMF instead of each other.
The people CAN handle the truth. Anyone who says otherwise is selling humanity short... and burning the only bridge we have to get out of this 'health security' (disease insecurity) dystopia ..... each other!
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-x-preparing-for-power/
"Trying to sell the "no virus" to the public is a losing strategy in my opinion."
If that was the case 'no virus' would be promoted by the mainstream as the default opposition view, because they obviously have a motivation to promote the LEAST effective counter narrative.
But what they actually do is keep 'no virus' (AKA adherence to the science) completely off the table, and instead promote the views of The Highwire/ CHD/ Malone etc as the default opposition view (lab leak, gain of function, vaccines-are-good-but-not-this-one etc).
Their narrative folds skeptics back into the official virus narrative (which is hardly effective!). You could even argue that their views are even more extreme versions of the official virus narrative (the 'virus' is a 'bioweapon' etc). The Highwire/ CHD are actually radicalising truthers even deeper into the official Big Pharma virus cult.
And...you make good points. I guess the reason I hesitate on the 'no virus' tactic is because I 'dry run' it through my mind (practice drill) as I imagine myself saying it to my immediate family and friends.
In my hypothetical mental drill I immediately envision my mother snorting, rolling her eyes, and crowning me a "conspiracy theorist." It wouldn't fly with my family members because Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta would hatch from their brain and take over...roflmao
Oh yeah it's easier to lie, dissemble and make up a story that people believe. People love love LOVE to be lied to. Keep them in their comfort zone.
I get it. And I agree that in a practical sense the leap IS too far for most people. But that's not a reason to promote the 'easier' lies, it's a reason to find imaginative ways to make the truth easier to understand, more palatable and more attractive.
For example, showing people how much happier/ fitter/ mentally strong you feel after ditching germ theory is probably going to be a better strategy than hitting them over the head with the science.
Most people just want safety, comfort and security. With everyone now dropping dead of the vax there's never been a better time to promote alternative models of health based on 'the grass is greener over here'.
"With everyone now dropping dead of the vax there's never been a better time to promote alternative models of health based on 'the grass is greener over here'."
I like that :)
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-x-preparing-for-power/
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
Thanks for the rebuttal. Food for thought :)
Govt: There is a virus on the loose, stay home.
Citizen: Do you have a sample of the virus taken from a person?
Govt: No, but go get your quackcine and wear your mask in public this is an emergency.
Citizen looks around and sees that after three years, more people are dying of the cure than the purported cause.
Citizen rejects germ feary as well as all measures related to it.
No! Do you suppose the Divine countenances denial of truth? If it's anything at all, this assault on humanity and its commission, is a huge test of humanity's integrity and competence. We must expose and challenge every deceit.
Whatever you just said you could have said in 3 sentences. I'm not gonna read all that shit. Useless verbosity is useless verbosity.
It left the same comment on my blog as well.
if it was verbatim it was probably AI
Mike wasn't addressing you.
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
Colds and flus are real. Have you read the Real Anthony Fauci? Gain of function research involved mixing cold and flu viruses with other ingredients to make them more virulent. That's what C19 is. So I don't think that going down this route is useful overall for getting accountability for those who pushed the jab and benefitted financially from this "pandemic". Not helpful.
Wait, they are real WHAT? What makes you think what you call cold and flu are a disease? How do you know it's not another bodily function? Is shitting a disease? Perspiration?
The symptoms are real, but there is no direct evidence that microbes pass from person to person and cause disease. In fact, the evidence ACM (all cause mortality) tells us a very different story, that being the measures taken to prevent the spread were causing harm. If one believes a virus exists, they must also believe said virus can distinguish between state lines, international boundaries and preys on the lower classes. When did viruses gain this ability?
That is a comical semi-straw man fallacy. You are criticizing viral infection dynamics by reduction to the absurd. Which is always funny.
I prefer to say that viral dynamics is too complicated and the no-virus standpoint explains things better. Of course, those who "believe" in viruses need something as complicated as viral dynamics and eschew the simple truth. Their job is about creating useless and confusin computer models that all their students pretend to understand, their job is not to ask questions and search what is true and what is not true. I think that's the problem with Die Herren Professors.
Colds and flus could be an anti-concept, or a package-deal, if you will.
You have the idea already in your thoughts that colds and flus are a consequence of an infection. Therefore, viral infection exist.
If viruses do not exist, the concepts of cold and flus carry their own contradiction in their definition.
We can call it also circular reasoning or begging the question, but anti-concept sounds way cooler.
The scientific work necessary to determine if colds and flus are caused by infections or are simply a process of detoxificaiton routinely carried on by the body as part of its normal health-sustaining functions has yet to be done.
But since viruses cannot be found, it is safer to bet on the "normal process" explanation. Just support the body, don't fight it!
"Colds and flus are real." Non sequitur thereon.
No SARS-CoV-2; therefore, no Covid-19; therefore, no pandemic. The alleged virus is the stepping stone to the series. Not helpful?
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
The traditional saying was feed a cold and starve a fever. Thus a cold needs nutrition, probably vitamins C and D particularly, and fevers need a detox from the build up of internal poisons and flush out the system.
Gain of function research is to be blunt a load of bollox, a Red Herring to deceive the masses and distract from other evils in the world and the push for one world totalitarian government and digitisation of everything.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/wuhan-flu/
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2023/04/14/gain-of-function-and-anthony-fauci/
I disagree, Celia. The one thing that The Powers That Shouldn't Be fear is losing their narrative to the truth that SARS-CoV-2 never existed in the first place. While logically you can never prove that something doesn’t exist (the famous Australian black swans), with items of importance, if you claim that something exists, then you must provide evidence, and preferable iron clad evidence.
Lose the existence of SARS-CoV-2, everything else in their narrative swirls down the toilet (where they belong) including the fake covid-19 illness, the fake rt-PCR test, the fake reasons for lockdowns which killed the economy, the fake masks, the fake debate between whether the fake “novel virus” originated with a love match between a bat and a pangolin or the one favored by conservatives, by gain-of-function at the Wuhan Lab of fake Virology, killing people in hospitals by the thousands with Remdesivir and ventilators, and most of all, the need to inject billions of arms around the world with this deliberately toxic, “spike protein” bioweapon. I also recommend a few of Andrew Kaufman MD videos on Bitchute where he deconstructs the methodology of “peer reviewed” papers showing the existence of SARS-CoV-2. These papers collapse into one of Aristotle’s favorite logical fallacies, that of circular reasoning. While as a chemist, they were easier for me to follow, Kaufman is an excellent teacher, and any intelligent person can.
I also highly recommend Sasha Latypova’s (a brilliant pharmaceutical consultant) Power Point presentation that gives very strong evidence that the entire psyop was run by the US Department of Defense, that all the contracts to purchase the vaccines by the DoD never mentioned them as “vaccines” but rather as “countermeasures” so the FDA and CDC had no “legal” right to regulate them, and HHS, the Big Pharma purported manufacturers, and the captured “regulatory agencies" were basically wag the dog frontmen. Do exactly what we order and you will get tons of money and total immunity. In short, the leaders of our military have declared war on the American people.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/j7Nw3LpqStk1/
* edit to correct a typo
I might also add to the above, that the lawyers and court costs for the occasional victories of Del Bigtree’s ICAN and RFK’s lawyers are not much of a threat to TPTSB. They exist on donations from an already strapped American public while ,gov gets their “donations” either by the threat of violence via taxes or from the Federal Reserve which creates its fake fiat currency out of thin air leading to the indirect, clandestine tax called inflation. So John and Jane Bagadonuts must pay both sides. The victories that they are winning are basically a partial retreat by .gov from breaking every aspect of the Nuremberg Code, i.e. a citizen’s right not to be poisoned by their governments.
yes these legal efforts are useless. But the Gardasil multi-district litigation goes to trial in federal court this year and the firm has hundreds of millions behind it. And ICAN and CHD are nowhere near it.
I think that our only solution is to spread the dangers of Guardasil to what ever degree we are collectibly capable. While I am not a Darwinist, if parents are either too ignorant of stupid to avoid this poison for their children, then perhaps they deserve a Darwin Award. They may even replace the current frontrunner, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
42 cases go to trial this hear. That is special.
I thought Mary Holland, President of CHD, was involved in some Gardasil litigation?
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
I haven't watched yet, but Sasha Latypova has an article today which includes a rebroadcast of an Aug. '22 segment with RFK Jr. on how the DOD controls the entire operation. I'm sure RFK Jr. knows this and I deep down feel he also seriously questions the reality of viruses, period, not just SARS. If so, it all boils down to "strategy." I don't know "the answer" on this one. Even if the "real" virus truth ultimately triumphs, will it be too late if all "half-truth" approaches are discarded leading up to it? Can a straight on confrontation -- short of huge amounts of the masses just saying no and not complying -- be even implemented without resulting violence? Who knows.
I did watch the Latypova interview with RFK Jr. which as you pointed out is half a year old. I think Latypova has drilled down a lot deeper about the DoD roll since then. As I recall, most of that interview was about how Moderna had broken all rhe FDA regulations and laws with impunity. I hope it is about strategy, but RFK Jr. had also been pushing the fake analschwabian climate change nonsense on his own blog site until his own readers started to mock him in its comment section. I did my part to help out. He only stopped a few months ago. As I wrote in my post that the non-existence of the "novel virus" and its logical consequences is the Achilles heel of the NWO psychos.
It is imperiaive that the lethal virus myth be destroyed to the point that 90% of the people of the world will mock it. Rumor has it that the the psychos are ready to roll out a Marlberg virus sequence with a purported 85% lethality. I think that is why Gates has been smirching extra offensively lately. I no longer believe that alternative media that treats cv-1984 as a real disease have our best interests at heart.
How many times can a magician repeat the same trick before the audience discovers how it works?
How many times can a comedian tell the same joke before it gets old?
There is a breaking point for induced mass psychosis through the media.
The media is the enemy of the people.
Eric and Celia Farber are an exception. They are almost no media, so no enemies. They are mostly poets, philosophers, researchers and candle merchants!
Anything with Marburg lethality is self-liquidating, according to virology (!). It would only have to be another location-targeted, pretend-virus, and since the covid-1984 live exercise worked out well, the game plan will likely remain in place. Real men will have to come out.
What was the name of the guy who said "if germ theory was true, we would all be dead"?
Let me think ... Eric Topol? Albert Bourla? Antonius Fauci? Jack Kevorkian? Or B. J. Palmer, phrased as "“If the germ theory were true, no one would be alive to believe it.”
Great! thx
Basically agree with all points. Just wondering how to get 90% of the world to mock it. Or maybe more to the point, 90% of the western dominated "civilized" world.
Sasha is now under attack from Mark Kulacz.
Mark Kulacz (of Polish ancestry, btw) doesn't like Russians all that much.
Eeeeeerrrrryyybody is an agent now, working for the perpetrators.
And they say the no-virus people divide the movement. Wow!
i think people's eyes are opening- thanks for never stopping
Please fake medical experts, show us just one Itty bitty virus particle that screams at us "I am a SARS CoV-2 virus" as pure as a snowflake. Look, here's my cousin known as a SARS CoV-1 virus. Oh wait, he never existed either.
Who needs a particle when we have all those scary spiky computer graphics?
lol! exactly!
I have a comparable Celia Farber quote (l always remember my favorite quotes in journalism): "Who needs a virus when you have a test?"
Yes exactly. This issue of whether a virus exists or does not exist is fracturing our movement. Why has there not been a debate. Dr’s Tom Cowan and Andrew Kaufman have posted videos which supposedly explain the isolation process and how it can be manipulated but the average person may not be able to follow the steps. A debate is called for.
Why debate? The government admits they don't have a sample nor any records anyone having a sample of the virus. Why not?
There is either science or there is not. Anyone taking a serious look at the methods of virology will see that it does not follow the scientific method. The Virus Challenge has been proposed to give virology the opportunity to take blind samples and identify the viruses that may or may not exist in the samples. They could show beyond doubt they know what they are doing, but have not taken up the challenge. Why is that?
I don’t understand the science so I don’t know how to take “a serious look” at the science.
But you start with wrongly formulating the issue. It is not whether a virus exists; it is whether SARS-CoV-2 exists, and that is the heart of the matter. Does it exist, or does it not? If it does not, nothing connected with it or following from it does. Movement fracturing - facepalm, this side of the screen.
This would be a good start: https://planetwavesfm.substack.com/p/open-letter-to-prof-denis-rancourt as well as: https://aleczeck.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-robert-f-kennedy and https://open.substack.com/pub/aleczeck/p/this-presentation-is-vitally-important
"Why is so-called virology completely unscientific? (PDF Download) https://truthseeker.se/my-first-published-article-in-a-scientific-journal/
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
https://bioanalyticx.com/establishing-isolation-and-existence-of-virus-pathogen-a-scientific-approach/
The no-virus people always explain what they want.
The yes-virus people say that viruses cannot be isolated and purified and they must be grown in a cell culture, with lots of weird stuff. They don't explain why, and they don't explain why they don't use controls (cell cultures without the "virus".)
It is simply a belief without evidence.
They insist that science is not about proving anything.
This is so weird.
They claim the can prove that viruses exist and can be sequenced but not isolated and purified in the normal analytical chemistry way, and, at the same time, they claim that science cannot prove anything.
This is a problem in their argumentation.
CBC . . . 14 July 2018 . . . Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband and students escorted out of Canadian Level 4 lab . . . removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China . . . group involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
SO GREAT you are sharing Christine's relentless pursuit of the truth Celia! I have a 3" stack of all Christine's letters and e-mails in my truck. Whenever anyone starts talking about the "Covid virus" I bring it out and show them"the virus never existed anywhere in the world and here is the proof" and they do not know what to say. I support Christine in every way I can, including intermittent financial support. For this interested, here is Christine's website so you can see all the documents
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
you know how many idiot vax zombies and ignorant morons I've tried to red pill on this, it is less effective than the mRNA preventing Covid, which evidently does not exist. until death they do part. the people wish to be deceived! - The Last Unicorn, Peter S Beagle
Thank you so much Fayanne :) xoxo
That Leaf's a thorn in the liar's side, ain't she?
They just can't spin it to their advantage and it's a beautiful thing!
Couey is literally the last person to call out. He's one of the only people THINKING right now. I appreciate Christine's work, but this kind of post seems like chaos agent nonsense.
No, he just seems like he is. I interviewed him for three hours. When you put him with a person with grounded knowledge who can reason, he falls apart. He never cites his sources either. He has no actual context but he is great at jargon. Here is audio, transcript and video.
https://planetwavesfm.substack.com/p/planet-waves-fm-exclusive-interview#details
This seems to be the entire scientific community, Eric, so I'm not sure why you target Couey. The majority of scientists in the world still seem to believe a bat and a pangolin *could* have an affair and create a super bug that a Chinese guy could pick up at a market before spreading to the rest of the world.
JJ at the beginning of the pandemic is not the same JJ when you interviewed him. After briefly reading the comments, I can tell you he has *already* since pivoted on his theory. A lot of that probably has to do with you challenging him. So, when I say he's one of the only ones THINKING, it means he is one of the only ones who is still exploring new ideas in 2023. To say that he *never* cites his sources either means you don't watch his show at all or you're being disingenuous.
I did notice you have a lot more respect for people who make questionable scientific claims when they have a massive platform that they allow you to utilize. Very telling.
JJ is learning. He says he is in a precarious work situtation. He lost his position like so many others for not submitting to dangerous nonsense. Until he gains economic independence his learning will be slowed down.
Who is Christine Massey and what are her credentials? Sorry don't think your denial of cold and flu viruses is helpful nor the trashing of RFK Jr's work. Unless you are going to go to these labs and get a sample of saliva and are working with scientists not on the take, the theory isn't useful to the freedom movement overall. In fact, it's divisive.
I think Christine has a driver's license, she can read, she loves trees and makes a good cup of coffee. Besides that, she is a citizen acting under statutes of law designed to force the government to provide information to citizens — like many before her. What she is doing takes some intelligence, but mostly she is driven to get to the truth.
Weak -- and sarcastic response to an inquiry for legitimate credentials. What's the back story on her. We are all driven to the truth here but given that C19 came out of the DOD and governments employed major psyops to get people to take the jab, it's calls into question someone who wants to deny that cold and flu viruses exist. It also shows that she didn't read the Real Anthony Fauci book. Have you? The first line of your response is nothing short of inane. Kennedy has a new book coming out on Wuhan in April. He's got a team of over 20 PhD fact checkers NOT on the take. But we know very little about Christine's background or who she is connected to. That's what I am questioning? Never heard of her before. Massey is certainly an illustrious name -- is she connected to that family?
What's so weak about that? What probable cause do you have to question her "credentials"? She is a free citizen. FOIAs are meant to level the ground between the government and people. Her credential — just like mine — is that she is capable of asking a question. She is also an accredited reporter for my station on Pacifica Network. "AcCREDited" means "CREDential." I gave her that because of her excellent research and investigation that to my standards as a professional investigative editor of long standing are top-notch and impeccable. But I'm wondering what your issue is WITH HER. She offers plain talk questions. The response of the government is what matters.
Only considering the work of people whose credentials you deem admissible is also divisive. Did you read The Real Anthony Fauci? Remember the work of Celia Farber?
It was the professionals who got us into the place in which we find ourselves...
Yeah I've read Celia Farber and she's not high on my list.
I disagree with you. It's not a matter of credentials per se, it's a matter of the evidence. And I just don't see that Christine doing this is helping. I question her background because who the hell is she? Yeah any citizen can file a FOIA but none of you have responded to my challenge that she work with scientists to get samples and PROVE what she is saying. So right now, I think she what she is doing is not useful nor relevant to helping to hold this criminal syndicate to account. Don't think it would be useful in a court or tribunal proceeding. And what's the back story on her? No answer to that....
CL, should she have NOT asked if governments have a sample of the virus they said they had, and used to lock down society? What is the basis NOT to ask? Other than you might NOT like the answer.
I don't care about her background, her work is a huge success.
Like the tale of the Naked Emperor, where everyone is pretending that the emperor is not dressed, and a child just asks with simplicity, giving away all the pretense.
She has done the most obvious and simple thing and people are jealous of her success.
Please, open up your mind to the possibility that there was never a SARS-CoV-2. Just consider it as a thought exercise. Give it a go!
Presumably the govt/CDC etc. alpha agency has a lab report that shows SARS-COV-2 exists, but then when asked via legal channels, they confirm they don't. Why is that? The querent's credentials are irrelevant to the question at hand. RFK Jr. does some good work, but continues to parrot the narrative that his own govt cannot confirm with real science.
I think comments like this are divisive and an attempt to downplay the real criticisms that RFK Jr is making about this whole "plandemic". They mixed up viruses in a lab. Then it was distributed. I believe that's the truth of the matter. So C19 does exist because they created it. Doesn't matter that agencies can't provide a sample; that's not their job. The hospitals were paid off to inflate data about C19 cases, misdiagnosed people using the fake PCR test, used medications and ventilators to kill people and now deny that the jab is killing people. Christine would be better off listening to Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt who are tracking the sequence of laws that have been changed to enable this criminality. Her FOIA requests are of little use overall.
That you may believe something does not make it true. That RFK publishes something implies that it's true. Are you suggesting here that if RFK says something, nobody can produce documents to the contrary? That his word is not subject to verification? That's what happened with Fauci.
I am looking at evidence, facts. You still haven't said whether or not you have read the book. Have you or haven't you? Are you aware of the Trusted New Initiative and how Gates paid off MSM. You still haven't given the back story on Massey. I am not saying anything like what you accuse me of. Don't continue to engage with me until you have read the book. Once you've done that, come back so we can have an informed discussion of the FACTS.
BTW I have many interviews with Massey on my station's page at https://planetwaves.fm
However, in my view, she only needs the credentials of Toto questioning the Wizard of Oz.
I'm sorry, I've never read a book. I have only read 212 FOIAs from governments saying they have no record of intact SARS-CoV-2 being sampled from a human anywhere in the world. Full stop.
What an idiotic response. So you are not up to the intellectual challenge of reading a book?
Whether there is a backstory or not is irrelevant. If the authorities have no record of a virus sourced from a human, their whole basis for the response and necessity for a quackcine falls away.
Back stories are entirely relevant. Look at the backstory of the WEF/Davos/UN/ Fauci/Gates partnership/ King Charles III/ Klaus Schwab/Bilderberg...I could go on and on...
Not their job? The CDC must have records of a sample of the alleged virus sourced from a human. If they don't, they have no credibility. The FOIA response establishes exactly that.
It's a waste of time. Start looking at other sources. There are certainly enough other real examples of criminality that can be documented in order to expose this criminal syndicate. The FOIA requests are just not that useful and serve to create division and all of you'all are contributing to that.
They illegally locked down the whole world for nothing!
RFK Jr.'s criticisms are valid, however the criminality rests on the basis of germ feary. At this point, RFK Jr. is playing whack-a-mole with each new intrusion upon public liberty and well being when he could instead invalidate the whole operation no matter what form it takes by attacking the root of the problem.
If he really wanted to end this, he would instead attack germ feary and its claims of contagious disease and pathogenic genetic particles which then form the basis of the need for quackcines which he has been 'fighting' for decades.
You claim that they created the virus. It does not behave like we are told a virus does. Where is the geometric growth in cases? Why does the virus behave differently in different states and countries who have taken different measures? Why is the cure more deadly than the disease? Why are health outcomes in regions with harsher measures worse than in regions in which measures were not as severe? If the virus exists, would it not be the opposite?
The agencies should have a record of a sample being taken from a human. The threat determines the response. If there is no threat, the entire response has no basis in reality.
If people ask the authorities to prove the threat exists and they cannot, then this tyranny would not be possible. What they have on their side is the strong momentum of germ feary. Once that illusion is broken, the whole thing will crash. As Christine says elsewhere on this page, it is happening, little by little. Eventually it will reach critical mass.
RFK Jr. discusses the existence of the virus in his book, but hedges his bets by not digging deep enough. Yes, being on the fringe can be costly, but does he want the truth or not? It has been disclosed that he is not willing to pay the price for truth until it is closer to the finish line.
This is a grave disservice to his supporters and followers. Literally.
O cmon. Childrens' Health Defense has been doing a phenomenal job exposing the dangers that ALL vaccines cause to children. I just think there's lots of other angles to link together that have greater validation than these FOIA requests. Criminal prosecutions are warranted but when so many people are on the take, and so many others have been brainwashed by the military psyops that's challenging. The agencies would not have samples DUH..it's the HOSPITALS!!! You're not doing people any favour by not pointing that out. Did you READ the book? He does not "hedge his bets". The virus was created from various labs in the US, Canada and China. I will look for further details when his book on the Wuhan cover up comes out in April. And that's not to say that China was entirely to blame since the contracts were signed with the DOD. Read Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt. Read more before you post. Think more critically.
So then the CDC could simply say they have records of samples taken in dozens of hospitals around the country, confirmed by a dozen independent labs. They could document the procedure so that other parties could confirm their findings. Instead, the CDC's website documents the fraudulent procedure that virologists use to 'isolate' a virus which is in fact the opposite, in which bovine and monkey tissues/fluids and drugs are added to create their 'isolation'.
Instead they say, they have no record of a virus taken from a human. Huh. Why is that?
Read more? Think more critically? Have you looked at the procedures of virology? Back up the truck here. You are starting on the premise that viruses exist. Why is that? All that you post about lab leaks, psyops, DOD, etc are premised on the existence of the virus. If there is no proof that it exists that changes the nature of what we are dealing with.
Sasha is a no-virus person.
Even David Martin admits there was no virus. He likes to play the game of the enemy with their poisoned language, but he has said that many times.
Katherine Watt is great but she needs and Editor.
Mike Yeadon has said many times "they lied about about everything."
I'm waiting to hear from Denis Rancourt, the results of his own research on the existence of pathogenic viruses.
Sasha did NOT say that. Denis Rancourt's work is excellent. Katharine Watt refuses to entertain discussion on the issue for reasons she states in her blog. She's clearly outlined the laws that were passed that set the stage for the violations that have taken place and she and Sasha are working with international lawyers to get people prosecuted. I think that is more effective and useful. As well as RFK Jr running for president -- Biden will be forced to debate him and more truths will emerge. And more people will wake up.
Spending billions of dollars on gain-of-function weaponization on purported viruses does not signify "progress" in this area. The more I dig down into the general field of "virology," the more unscientific and fraudulent it appears. I suspect that gain-of-function is a giant money laundering scheme. When one strips all the fraud from the lethality statistics of "SARS-CoV-2," it resolves to the typical lethality of a seasonal flu, whatever that may be in reality. Exactly what is the basis of this hullabaloo of a lab leak between the red and blue teams, if the "best" they can come up with it a moderate seasonal flu. The probability is exactly that - a rebranded moderate seasonal flu. The real "progress" has been in the lethality of injections.
We should do our best to spread the word far and wide of the Gardasil dangers. While I am not a Darwinist, if parents are too ignorant or stupid to respond to this, then I guess they deserve the Darwin Award, and maybe take the #1 spot to the current, "Hold my beer and watch this!"
I will say, however, that though Massey's FOIs do indeed prove that no SARS-CoV-2 virus has been independently validated to exist, at the same time the nature of the FOIs are such that there can be be no evidence prima facie. She asks for what does not exist, because no-one in virology isolates viruses in the manner described in her FOIs. Thus, it does not really serve as 'evidence' until someone actually FUNDS the necessary isolation study according to the methods identified by Massey, Lanka, Bailey, Cowan etc. *THAT* would be proof. I want our arguments to be logically watertight.
Regards from a fellow virus non-believer.
No. If they had the virus they should simply show it.
They have nothing, and they can't lie.
Some claim the American Type Culture Collection sells samples of SARS-CoV-2. The institutions being asked by FOI requests could have bought a sample from the ATCC to study it and produce a report.
It is impossible.
If it existed they would have it.
This is poltics.
SPOT ON, ROGER 23.
This isn't the function of an FOI. An FOI is a legal request for information pertaining to the nature of the questions asked. As such, all FOIs can be dealt with by legal semantics, aka. QUIBBLE.
Massey requested information for a viral isolation methodology, and its results, used by no-one. No information can exist for it DE FACTO. That's the legal quibble at work here. There are much better lines of evidence, like Lanka's empirical demonstration that a control sample to which NO VIRUS particles have been added, still produce 'virus' and cytopathic effects when subject to Ender's viral isolation technique. That's a death blow to the fraud of virology. Massey's FOIs? Not so much...
JP, both the FOIs and the responses are published. Please, provide me a direct quotation that meets your definition of "quibble." I'm surprised you haven't; every word is documented.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quibble
The authorities are evading the point of Massey's argument by emphasizing the minutiae of her FOI requests: no information exists for a viral isolation method no-one uses.
Have you ever filed an FOI request? Have you ever been involved in the legal discovery process in litigation? You seem to have NO idea whatsoever what you're talking about. To my readers, please do not be mislead by this guy, who is clueless and seems to be here as a polite troll.
Yeah, I have. I FOIed the NSW Ministry of Transport for their documentation/risk assessment for the 12 months I spent unable to do my job because I'm unvaxxed and mask-exempt. They even gave me the info for free in the end. 22T-0598 on 22 Jan. 2022 [*corrected].
https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/about-us/access-to-information/disclosure-logs
So much for transparancy, intrgrity and 'new journalistic standards.' Who's the troll now?
I doubt the virologists will be convinced by Lanka's success, because they have their mind not in science but in the more practical question "What do I have to say to get mor NIH funding?"
This is corruption. Science has been dominated by political and corporate interests since the 1990s.
Massey's success has the virtue of attacking corruption using the own mechanisms of the system. Scientists are merely lapdogs of the CEOs of hedgefunds and they only fear a sudden change or a the collapse of the system.
Virology will be dropped or it will be revamped. They will attempt to say that viruses are mostly benefic and come from our own genome and drive evolution in the right direction and only through random mutations do viruses become pathogenic. They will invent that good viruses and bad viruses jump from one person to another (and between different species too) in a desperate attempt to keep control and prop up the system of medical exploitation.
That will fail too.
Eventually, the scientists will accept Lanka's experiments, but only when the system is totally broken. The system began to break apart when they perpetrators decided to invent the plandemic years ago. It is under attack and must be attacked from every angle.
Yes, I agree.
PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION... Protocol No. 10 – Preparing for Power
❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the GOYIM see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and all else.❞
http://www.renegadetribune.com/protocols-of-zion-protocol-x-preparing-for-power/
I am so confused.
do tell!
Don't be confused.
The Governments invented viruses to distance people from God.
The God-State that chooses who lives and who dies. As religiosity began to disappear in people in the 19th century, people desired to become less of a victim of the politicians, and they had to create another form of fear-based control.
If you believe in a personal God, you have nothing to fear from the State, spiritually. In contrast, if there is only this life, and they control all the drugs and all the information, then...
It's very clear.
Thank you.
God bless.
I really though JJC had it figured out. Its the flu behind the mask.
I interviewed him for three hours. When you put him with a person with grounded knowledge who can reason, he falls apart. He never cites his sources either. He has no actual context but he is great at jargon. Here is audio, transcript and video.
https://planetwavesfm.substack.com/p/planet-waves-fm-exclusive-interview#details
Whats funny is I firmly believe he is looking over the edge down at the truth self questioning if he can "get there".
Scooby Doo-ing the world with with bogus PCR tests is a perfect analogy in my fictional cartoon caveman's view.
I am eternally thankful and grateful to you for using your mind, heart, courage and passion saving the truth from obscurity.